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does anyone have thoughts on this?
Kid-A.....I got it from the bible...not the WT...
Eph. 1:10 "For an administration at the full flimit of the appointed times namely to gather all things together again in the Christ, the things in the heavens and the things on the earth. Yes in him".
I left the Wt...in Sept. never to return again....
jeffery schwem sent me this link sometime back, i honestly just think it is very beautiful and thought that i would share it with you all.. .
meagan.
http://san-francesco.org/cantico_flash_eng.html
Cool thought that the sun and water, etc, are like our brothers and sisters. Only thing, I wouldn't think of death as my sister.... Pictures are nice.....
one only has to be aware of the relationship between a shepherd and his sheep to understand that the jw doctrine of 2 classes of christians, one with a heavenly destiny and the other an earthly one is terribly flawed.
i lay down my life for the sheep.
then there will be one flock, one shepherd.
I agree. But in the greater picture...It could be the Spiritual Jews verses the people of every tribe and tongue, the great crowd, who could be any religion, even an atheist..
Like the Rev.7: 4...spiritual jews
Rev, 7: 9 ....great crowd.
Like a minor and a major fulfillment.......I believe that good people of all religions will make it...or even atheists....yet there seems to be another group that would fall into a spiritual Jew catagory...like Paul said ...Gal. 3:29... "If you belong to Christ, you are really Abraham's seed" (his brothers)
please back up with scriptural evidence.. .
meagan.
ps thanks in advance
Auld Soul...I think the points I made about the "Mark of the Beast" and "Beating Swords to Plowshares" "and Groaning and Sighing over the detestable things" is pertinent now because we are at the "time of the end". And these are "time of the end" prophesies not really applicable neccessarily before.
Black Swan...cool what you said about
1. Christians because they are loving?
2. Loving because they are Christians...?
I'll vote for #1....
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martin luther king..mother teresa, john lennon...ghandi..all dead.
who would you say was a hero doing the will of god...no matter what religion or belief system..even an atheist?
Martin Luther King..Mother Teresa, John Lennon...Ghandi..all dead.
Who would you say was a hero doing the will of God...no matter what religion or belief system..even an atheist?
please back up with scriptural evidence.. .
meagan.
ps thanks in advance
Some scriptures in my mind for right now in history.
1. NWT Ez. 9:4 ......"And you must put a mark on the forheads of the men that are sighing and groaning over all the detestable things that are being done in the midst of it."
2. NWT Mic. 4:3..." .....And they will have to beat their swords int plowshares and their spears into pruning shears........and they will learn war no more."
3. NWT Rev. 20:4 ".....Yes, I saw the souls of those executed with the ax for the witness they bore to Jesus and for speaking about God, and those who had worshiped neither the wild beast nor it's image and who had not received the mark upon their forehead and upon their hand and they came to life......"
Black Swan....it's seem important now to understand these things..
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does anyone have thoughts on this?
David...I know I already talked of this... YES I agree with you.
I do think that the big issues are won and we are just seeing it come together now.
1. issue that was brought up in the garden. Does God have the right to rule or is man
capable.? Man's rule now has been proven that it's a failure. The goverment is
proven the be in the wrong. Futile wars without a basis. (no WMD's) all proven.
We are just waiting now for it all to come together.
i have been looking at some of the society's publications recently and was wondering what people's understanding without wts bias was to the image?
Well....
head = Babylon
breasts and arms of silver = Medes and Persian.
belly and thighs of copper = Rome
legs of iron = Greece
feet of iron and clay = US and Britain
toes = UN
stone = Jesus Christ
iron =strict government rule
clay = the people in a democracy
if you had to write down just a few sentances about why you left the truth, what would you say?.......
jambon;.
wholeheartedly embraced it for a few years after love bombing etc then saw widespread hypocrisy.
When the KEEP ON THE WATCH brochere came out and announced we had entered into the HOUR OF JUDGEMENT>>> and after asking everyone I knew and waiting for an explanation from the society. Nobody knew anything... I read the bible and realized the end would be very different from what they say...(90 year old prophesies) So I eventually realized they didn't have God's holy spirit.. I had to leave as I'm not allowed to believe anything different than the tired old prophesies. And I SURE DO>
Jesus is fearless and the foremost apostate.....He could show us how it's done.
